Lawsuits complain that lumber from Home Depot and Menard’s doesn’t measure up

In this photo taken March 31, 2015, Ed Fotta sorts hardwood at the Allegheny Millwork and Lumberyard in Pittsburgh. (AP Photo/Gene J. Puskar)

MILWAUKEE (AP) — The 2×4 and 4×4 boards used in the framework of most homes and wood fences just don’t measure up to the dimensions in their names.

So several federal lawsuits have been filed against Home Depot and Menard’s complaining that consumers are being misled because a 2×4 measures 1½ inches by 3½ inches and a 4×4 is really 3½ inches by 3½ inches.

The retailers told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel ( it’s common knowledge that those numeric names don’t describe the boards’ width and thickness.

Wisconsin-based Menard’s said in court documents that consumers received lumber that met the standards for a 2×4 or 4×4 even if it measures slightly smaller.

The lawyers are arguing that consumers got less than the stores promised them, so they should be compensated.

“It’s difficult to say that for a reasonable consumer, when they walk into a store and they see a label that says 4×4, that that’s simply — quote unquote — a trade name,” Yevgeniy Turin of the McGuire Law firm that filed the lawsuits in the northern district of Illinois, told the newspaper.

One expert told the paper that in the construction industry, it is commonly known that a 2×4 doesn’t measure 2-inches-by-4-inches. There are government-approved standards that set the minimum dimensions for lumber.

“Anybody who’s in the trades or construction knows that,” said Tim Stich, who teaches carpentry at Milwaukee Area Technical College.

It’s hard to say how many consumers realize the holes they are digging for fence posts only have to be big enough for a 31/2-inch-wide board. But a simple tape measure would make it clear.

A federal judge will decide later if the lawsuits measure up well enough proceed. provides commenting to allow for constructive discussion on the stories we cover. In order to comment here, you acknowledge you have read and agreed to our Terms of Service. Commenters who violate these terms, including use of vulgar language or racial slurs, will be banned. Please be respectful of the opinions of others and keep the conversation on topic and civil. If you see an inappropriate comment, please flag it for our moderators to review.

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